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Islam Is NOT About Peace, It's About Bloodthirsty Imbeciles 
30th-Nov-2007 08:58 am
"Religion of peace" demands death for naming teddy bear Mohammed
Thousands of Sudanese, many carrying knives and sticks, have taken to the streets of Khartoum calling for the execution of British school teacher Gillian Gibbons, jailed over a teddy bear.

Crowds demonstrated outside the presidential palace, saying the 15-day prison sentence imposed on Mrs Gibbons for allowing her class to call a teddy bear Mohammed was too lenient.

The protesters streamed out of mosques after sermons, as pick-up trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Mrs Gibbons, 54, from Liverpool.

Hundreds of riot police were deployed as demonstrators massed in central Martyrs Square, outside the palace.

"Shame, shame on the UK," protesters chanted, and they called for Mrs Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."

The women's prison where Gibbons is being held is far from the site, as is the Unity High School where she taught, which is under heavy security protection.

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30th-Nov-2007 11:45 pm (UTC)
*nod* I probably should read it, actually.

I don't know if you had a chance to read it, but I posted a while back about an Islamic student I had who went through a crisis of faith after 9/11. I felt uniquely ill-equipped to help him.

I'll look into it, though I do know that there are people who ascribe to the name "Muslim" who ARE peaceful -- which is why I'm hesitant to condemn in broad strokes. Perhaps they're not really following the tenets of the religion, but they think they are in some regard or they wouldn't claim the name.

Which raises a basic question of which I don't know the answer: how does one become a member of Islam?
1st-Dec-2007 06:48 am (UTC)
Difficult to answer, actually. What made me decide I was truly an atheist was reading the bible cover to cover (which was off and on and took many years to accomplish - AND I consulted many philosophers, professors, & clerics along the way) and deciding that there was not only no such thing as God, but that it would be impossible FOR there to be such a thing. It's something I think that not even many Christians have done - or professed Muslims have done in relation to the Quran, reading the entire body of work and judging afterward if it is a valid design for living or a bunch of hooey.

There are many Christians who can claim the New Testament (the more Liberal version of the bible) as a means of circumventing the problems of old world living -vs- modern living, but even then I don't really believe they've read the entire text OR decided to live by it's constrictions word for word. Which equals fraud, I have no problem saying. Live by the word or stop claiming you do - simple! Either way, know what you're fucking talking about, right?

Also, having a basis for comparison is vital. How many Christians have read the Satanic bible by Anton Lavey? I think that they all SHOULD read it, it's a great book for starters - very entertaining - but more to the point, it's the antithesis of all things sacred in the eyes of Christian society, all things that Christians are purported to eschew - so what better means of contrast? What good is having faith if it cannot be tested for it's strength and value?

What's the fucking point of believing at all in the first place if your faith is so shakable that reading a fucking book in opposition can tear down your faith so easily? If one's faith is true and strong (and frankly worth having in the first place) then nothing can touch it - and one would actively try to test it for it's resilience and strength often. This is why I think that most people who claim to believe are really full of shit and lack the courage of their convictions. I just don't see the point of lying about it, because then you reduce it to nothing more than fashion - and that's just fucking sick, I have no respect. Be full on in your faith because you've studied and have NO questions, or question and get satisfying answers - if you don't get them, reevaluate your life and give critical thought to whether or not you REALLY believe or REALLY just want to believe. It requires balls, either have them or own not having them - either way is fine and I can respect that, as long as it's based in having done the work to arrive at one conclusion or the other.

Islam is Arabic for submission - in order to be a Muslim (pilgrim/adherent of Islam) you must completely submit to God (Allah) and follow the teachings in the Quran as dictated by the Prophet Muhammed and never question them at all - that is the point of complete submission. To be a devout Muslim, you must make the pilgrimage to Mecca (also called the Hajj, which all able bodied Muslims are required to do once) as the confirmation of your faith. To renounce your faith as a Muslim is to become an infidel, one who does not believe that Islam is the one true religion, the ultimate sin/heresy/blasphemy which demands punishment by death. No exceptions, they just gotta catch you first - and FUCK them.

Read that book and you will understand better.

Edited at 2007-12-01 06:56 am (UTC)
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