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31st-Dec-2005 10:41 pm (UTC)
A minority within a minority? Are they trying to say that Republicans are the minority?

I should pick that up sometime but I still cannot understand why a gay person would want to be a Republican. I mean, I have trouble understanding why anyone is Republican in the first place - not that their arguments don't make sense for being greedy, hypocritical, insanely idiotic morons - but why anyone would contribute to any facet of an organization that aims to destroy any diversity in this nation, well, I can't figure that.
31st-Dec-2005 11:34 pm (UTC)
no, they're saying that republicans are a minority among gays.

as to why anyone is republican -- there are republicans who's old-style conservatives, and they're extremely unhappy with the way the party has been going.
1st-Jan-2006 12:31 am (UTC)
Well then they would simply say "minority," no? I could see saying that minority status is amplified, but not a minority within a minority.

My grandfather used to be a Republican. Way back in the day. It took my grandmother a couple of years to switch parties, but he did. He was a Republican because he was raised to be a Republican and his parents' Protestant background "demanded" it. When he married a Catholic, and many years later learned that my aunt, his daughter, is a lesbian, I think he realized that the choice he made helped him expand his outlook in politics and understand why it's important for minorities in any way to support the more liberal cause.

Nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative. And there were some things that the old-school Republicans did right. But today's party is something of which this country should be ashamed.
1st-Jan-2006 12:42 am (UTC)
Gah, sorry, I can't read, I think I have been without school too long :P
1st-Jan-2006 12:38 am (UTC)
And in finishing that thought... my dad was discussing how he felt that Nixon would be too liberal for today's Republican party. I didn't believe him then, but now I'm starting to see his point.
31st-Dec-2005 10:54 pm (UTC)

you are fucking shitting me.
31st-Dec-2005 11:29 pm (UTC)
Hey I used to be a Republican. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you necessarily or overnight embrace or reject the policy positions of a particular political party. That said I think the Republican party is poisoned goods. Their crass embrace of bigotry, the Dobsonites, and big government pandering to interest groups have killed the party for me, and many, many others. If the Democratic party would, at the same time, embrace capitalism, and shun crony capitalism (Lieberman, Hilary Clinton, and their ilk) I'd be an enthusiastic Democrat. Now I'm just a reluctant Democrat who has a habit of voting for the least corrupt and evil candidates I can find, regardless of party.
31st-Dec-2005 11:54 pm (UTC)
I didn't know they made another sequel to Dumb and Dumber!
1st-Jan-2006 12:17 am (UTC)
OK. I grew up in a mixed (Demo-republi-cratic) family in a very conservative and republican part of the world. I have some experience with "those people", and frankly, I don't understand why WE would want to support a party whose platform and members are diametrically opposed to US...and I don't say that politically, I say that "us" as in they are opposed to the very fiber of our beings. It's like someone warming the bench on a football team who gets beaten to a bloody pulp by the rest of the team on a regular basis...who keeps going to practices and dressing for games despite the certainty that he will NEVER play in a game and that he will get beaten to a bloody pulp again...and says that he stays on the team because he likes football and because the team members are his FRIENDS.

So why do these people keep trying? Are they so ingrained with Republican propaganda from childhood that they know no other way? Do they like going to cocktail parties and fundraising dinners with people who would just as soon introduce them to fists and tire irons because they have no other means of socializing? Are they rich and greedy for more and figure the only way to live at the standards to which they have become accustomed is have no principles except "me first and screw the rest of you"? Are they self-loathing masochists who LIKE being disrespected by the people they think they identify with? Have they bought into Republican world view so thoroughly that they have lost the ability to carry on critical thinking themselves? Do they believe that they have so completely insulated themselves that the policies advanced by the morons they support won't touch them? Do they think they're just BETTER than the rest of us because they don't identify with Joe Gay-man? And WTF about the rest of us thinking we're "victims"? Uh...HELLO? Hello? hello?...hello.... Yup, the echo confirms that there's not much between their ears...so my questions are rhetorical after all.
1st-Jan-2006 01:30 am (UTC)
Hey, if there's a group of gays who want to act as the Fifth Column in the Republican party, who want to work on moving that party away from the anti-gay bias it continuously shows, I say more power to them. I support the Log Cabin for that very reason. I don't want the Democrats to be the only party that works towards gay rights, I want EVERYONE to be working towards gay rights.

And if nothing else, it gives the discriminating Republicans like Dole apoplexy to thing these Log Cabin guys exist. And that's a good thing, yo.
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