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I think the Fred Phelps Cult must be watched, counter-demoed, and used. Not because I think they are powerful as Focus on the Family, the AFA, Concerned Bitches for America, the Eagle Forum, and the Chistian Coalition, but for every little queer growing up in shrub's america who'll hate themselves that much more if we don't.

Anybody a real christian out there? How about holding a prayer vigil at Fred's next appearance? Signs like "GOD HATES?", "WHO ELSE DID GOD TELL YOU THEY HATE?", and "WHY IS ONLY ONE PART OF LEVITICUS IMPORTANT?", seen by the media (and broadcast) at their manifestations could show our trapped sisters and brothers (and others) that there is some hope.
I worry about the ones we leave behind us.

that (thinking up here, by the sea) DadBear

p.s. thanx for stirring the pot, you make an old shit disturber start thinking about stuff again.

I agree with you on the point that we must do more to instill self respect in younger generations to help counter self loathing, but I'd much rather it became the responsibility of Christians to counter his rhetoric. I don't even believe in God, so I'll not go there. Having dealt personally with this group before, I know that there's no point in trying to argue with them - but I agree that the complacency about their antics breeds negative results in GLBT youth. I would venture to guess that the religious right and the GOP have historically done their fair share in these capacities as well, so I'm trying to encourage a more wise picking of battles.

And you're quite welcome.

Right off the bat, I was being being sarastic. It's a public journal on the internet, Damon - I'm so sure I'm going to suggest or advocate the killing of some unsavory public figure on the goddamned internet for fuck's sake. Don't speak to me about being a really sad individual if I wouldn't shed a tear if Phelps or anyone connected to him were to drop dead, it's sanctimonious and suggests some moral superiority over me on your part and you don't know me well enough to make a judgement call like that.

Don't opine about not understanding how I can be entitled to my anger over the right, neocons, conservatives, etc. and use that as some weak effort to argue First Amendment rights - I have made it clear that they have just as much right to say what they feel as anyone else does, and if you bothered to read the entire post instead of editing out the bits you don't like (which, I'll take time to point out, you've accused me of in the past - hypocrisy much?) you would know that. My anger is the result of bullshit legislation that aims to control morality from the perspecive of a few to the detriment of the whole. It comes from needless spending of government funds and public dollars on stupid shit that only increases debt and accomplishes more harm than good. It comes from the fact that I fucking hate stupid people in general, I don't look the other way or turn the other cheek, and I don't believe in forgiveness.

You don't want to kill Liberals, even if some are vile? Good for you! Conversely, I don't want to kill any Republicans but I sure as fuck don't mourn them when they die. If that is shocking behavior by your standards, then I personally think that is pretty sad in light of the destruction created daily in the name of God & 'patriotism' by the very people you align yourself with. I don't give two shits if you think I'm awful, to be perfectly honest with you Damon - but I'm not singling you out either - I don't care what ANYONE thinks about the words I use or the sentiment that propels them or whether or not they think it is awful that I think as I do in general. Don't like what I have to say, then I respectfully suggest that you not read it lest I offend your delicate sensibilities with my reality. True, there CAN be discourse between the right and left, not when the right continues to use its self righteousness as a protective shroud to deflect its own inadequecies and failures from scrutiny and continues to flout ridiculous ideology that doesn't even affect them. It's this kind of bullshit Liberals do not suffer gladly, namely wearing ignorance like a gleaming badge of honor.

As far as the issue that I 'know better' than what I've demonstrated here, let me say this. In this journal, you're the odd man out as a gay Republican, and it's miraculous that I take you seriously at all. Being self righteous with me will get you nowhere if your aim is to try and help me understand your point of view. You simply want to argue politics and moral superiority as you've demonstrated before, and it is a waste of time.

Ducks and bunnies...

Don't you find it interesting a non-liberal is preaching about free speech, given fostering such is usually what leads to counterculture and anti-establishment sentiment and practices?

But, liberal precepts like "protest" and "criticism" come in awfully handy once in a while for everyone, I suppose. It must be nice to be able to pick and choose like that, instead of having to stick by a particular ideology even when it's no longer popular with the majority of the country.

(This is not referring to you, of course, but to Damon's original reply to your post.)

speach = speech.

And I disagree with the notion that all the Right is doing is expressing its rights of free speech. How can one explain Republican legislation to reduce federal funding for libraries that carry "objectionable" (read: gay-authored) material, for example?

It's not just a simple fucking issue of free speech. People in the political party you identify with are more guilty of violating free speech than properly using it.

Bullshit. Not too long ago it was hate speech that was used consistently to denigrate individuals into second-class citizens, denying their equal rights like voting. More importantly, however, the whole "PC" agenda really only influenced every day discourse. And, the last time I checked, people can still say things like nigger, dyke, and faggot, and not be jailed for it.

But hey, just because you can't see the hypocrisy of belonging to a politcal party which actively tries to suppress free speech - in our public libraries, in our public media - it's not my job to declare you delusional. Perhaps one day you'll realize the ways of your ideological errors.

Your = You're.

You should really work on that grammar problem. You should also work on taking everything too literally, as in my livejournal entry which didn't even personally refer to you, and in Jude's entry.

Dictionary.com has a nice defintion of "hyperbole" for you to explore. It might prevent you from making a complete ass of yourself again in the near future.

The "American Taliban" link is dead.

Regarding the ever so slightly extreme of the religious groups, my only thought is, that ever since 2000 I've felt more and more like I'm at the end of an old remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
At the end of the movie one of the characters goes up to the main character played by Donald Sutherland smiling, and expecting him to talk with her. (The aliens don't have any real emotions).
He points a finger at her and makes a weird alarming scream, pointing her out to the rest of the aliens. He's been 'SNATCHED UP'! :)
You get the point?
Christianity is a wonderful religion. But these days, it's hard to tell who's going to scream 'your against the word of GAWWWWD!'
I tend to avoid strangers with a cross around their necks most of the time.
Just don't know when that alien scream is gonna sound. :P