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Christian Persecution? 
9th-May-2005 10:11 am
I love rudepundit and slacktivist. They're two of my favorite blogs. batmoon beat me to this one, but I had to post about it also, it is that unbelievable. From slacktivist:

    Of course Christians are persecuted in the United States.
    After all, everyone knows Christians can't marry other Christians
    (except in one state but nobody recognizes Christian marriages anywhere
    else and it's not like those are real marriages anyway), can't adopt ot
    become foster parents after they truthfully answer the "Faith" question
    on the questionnaire, can be denied housing and jobs for being
    Christians, and are regularly the butt of jokes where practitioners of
    other religions (especially Jews) are portrayed as kind and giving. In
    many parts of the country, Christians are afraid of walking down the
    street because they know people will shout at them for being Christian.
    They don't dare walk into some bars, knowing that their conservative
    clothing or a slip in conversation might make them a target for "beat
    the Christian in the backroom." When a Christian commits an act of
    terrorism against an abortion clinic, Christians lock their doors in
    fear of retaliation by complete strangers. Doctors who practice and
    promote Natural Family Planning are listed on websites with "Wanted"
    posters and regularly receive death threats. Halloween and Beltaine
    are paid days off regardless of a person's faith; anyone who asks to
    take a vacation day for Christmas or Easter is grilled suspiciously by
    coworkers and managers.
    Schools for other faiths are everywhere;
    there are only one or two Catholic schools per state and they don't
    advertise after three were firebombed in one year. The ruling party
    and all three branches of government have dozens of people who have
    made public statements that Christians are destroying this country and
    that the practice of Christianity should be banned by the Constitution.

    Christians are barred from military service. Every Christian has a
    friend or relative who was killed or imprisoned during the last world
    war because they were Christian. When Christians complain about the
    treatment they receive, they're told to move to another state / country
    with their own kind. People regularly picket the funerals of
    Christians with signs that read "The nameless forces that randomly
    shaped the cosmos into an appealing pattern hate Christos!"
    word "christian" is used as an independent adjective to describe
    something stupid and/or undesireable. Christian girls who ascribe to
    Paul's teaching that women must keep their heads covered when they pray
    are suspended from schools for violating the "no hats" policy. The only
    movie most people have even heard of that features Christianity is "The
    Faith," a horror film that shows teenaged girls praying for bad things
    to happen to their classmates and committing cannibalism (using a
    phrase made trendy by the movie: "Body and Blood of Christ"). Politicians
    regularly end statements with "And Allah bless America," and when
    called on it, they claim they mean all gods when they say Allah. "In
    YHWH We Trust" is written on our money.
    Teenagers who tell their
    parents they're interested in Christianity, or believe they might be
    Chrisrians, are told they're "going through a (rebellious) phase" and
    are often sent to counselling to "fix" them. The first response people
    often make when they hear someone's family member is a Christian is to
    say "I'm so sorry." Christian clubs at colleges don't advertise their
    meetings because atheists regularly show up and hand out copies of "On
    the Origin of Species."

    Or you know, not.
9th-May-2005 02:26 pm (UTC)
...and i could just see someone totally missing the entire point and just hopping on the "you're being blasphemous" bandwagon.

i thought that was quite funny in a "ha ha only serious" sorta way
9th-May-2005 02:31 pm (UTC)
Heh heh. Good 'un.
9th-May-2005 02:33 pm (UTC)
toooo funny - I may have to send that to one of my professors.
9th-May-2005 02:50 pm (UTC)
Sad thing is, some people believe it too. I've actually heard some extreme right-wingers claim some of those things.
9th-May-2005 04:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you for this. I was a little down on myself because earlier in the week I had gotten criticised by a Mormon friend for being anti-family and anti-religious.

She has been sending me the occasional posts that have been talking about her manic depression, health problems, financial problems, and the way she feels disconnected from other adults because she is home with her two children all day. The last post had said she had been in the hospital for batteries of tests for a persistent illness and discovered she was pregnant, and wasn't it wonderful.

I had told her I didn't think it was wonderful really, that a third child was perhaps not going to help make her happier, and maybe it would be a good idea to hold off on children until her financial, marriage, and particularly health problem were dealt with - she would have to forgo all diagnostics and treatment until after her pregnancy. When her friends and family started responding telling me how I hadn't any right ot tell her that, I realized I had hit "reply all" and everyone she had sent the announcement to had gotten a copy of my advice.

After being deluged with hate mail, I responded to the list again, telling them that I thought that it seemed that they would rather see her die to carry this baby than support her in looking after her own health, that if it went badly it would be on their heads, and that if they were going to pressure her to do this they had better damn well step up to the plate and be there for her if things went wrong.

Of course, I should have quit while I was ahead, but this sort of "culture of life" crap drives me nuts. But it kind of hit home when she told me that I hated her religion and the idea of family. I don't like to think of myself as hateful, but perhaps I am.

Seeing this post reminded me of the nature of the people that I am dealing with, that guilt is their favorite weapon, and that if I was speaking the truth then I have done the right thing. Thank you for postingthis. I needed to see it.
9th-May-2005 04:18 pm (UTC)
You know... I find great comfort in the fact that I'm not the only one who can say DON'T DO IT when people think it'd be super swell to do something that -really- isn't in their best interest.

I support you, in your willingness to speak for health and logic. You should have a monument built to you, for such bravery. (And I'm not being snarky. :) )
9th-May-2005 07:12 pm (UTC)
I love this reply, thank you for writing it!

Guilt in place of circular logic is a standard fallback, you just have to know how to counter rhetoric with reason - not that it ever really does any good. Arguing with fundies is like fucking for chastity.
9th-May-2005 07:19 pm (UTC)
"Arguing with fundies is like fucking for chastity"

LOL! So funny and so true!

I just usually avoid the whole situation. I know they're hopeless, and logic just does not compute with them, so why bother? They'll just end up getting me riled up, which is probably what they're hoping for anyway.
9th-May-2005 04:18 pm (UTC)
Wonderful. I've linked it to one person already.
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9th-May-2005 07:10 pm (UTC)
*gets all excited*
10th-Jun-2005 05:42 am (UTC)
Dirty Christians, we should lock every one of them up.
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