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2nd-Jun-2004 10:22 pm
Just when you thought it was safe to assume that stupid people had stopped breeding....... ____anti_gay

Go and see for yourself, I've already posted a response and am sincerely hoping that whatever wayward sperm was responsible for this will answer. It goes by _fluz_, and also has another community called x_out_sodomy which is just as moronic.

Fucking stupid people, I swear. If there were any such thing as God, stupidity would cause cancer. That would be benevolence.


There's more! _anti_gay_, run by the cunting killing_happy! Notice the staggering number of white supremacists in these communities...

Also, since I suspect she's going to delete my comment, here it is in full:

In this initial post, you make several baseless assertions, but the one that screams the loudest for me was "There are many many reasons homosexuality is wrong and most of them aren't even religious reasons." I, and I'm certain many others as well, would like for you to expound on this if you would be so kind. If not, then I believe it is safe to say that it is, in fact, nothing more than a baseless assertion. Then maybe you will be kind enough to expound on this little gem: "DO NOT try to state that homosexuality is normal or natural. The only time people are born homosexual is when they have a mental illness." and where you might cite one fact based scrap of evidence to support such an asinine claim.
2nd-Jun-2004 07:52 pm (UTC)
I read through the entries and didn't see your post anywhere...only many, many deleted entries.
2nd-Jun-2004 08:07 pm (UTC)
Never mind...I found it, but that crazy girl is deleting as I type.
2nd-Jun-2004 07:54 pm (UTC)
i caught your comment. i added my own. in the event that it gets deleted, i'd like to share it here, because i'm pretty proud of it, if i do say so myself.

just out of curiousity... if i'm not supposed to call them fags or queers, can i still call them gay? what if they LIKE to be called fags or queers? several good friends of mine proudly call themselves faggot, i used to have friends in high school who proudly called themselves nigger. i can't say that i can say what they should and should not be called.

i'm also curious on whether or not bi-sexuality is a mental illness. if so, i should be bringing this up with my doctor. maybe if it's a mental illness, i can get disability for it, and get money from the government (tax payers) to be "cured". i'm hoping there's some really great research out there, that will help me.

my last point and comment is, so if anti-gay isn't homophobic, is it just hate? you mention that you aren't afraid, and that's okay too. but if you aren't afraid, then it doesn't exactly stand to reason that you have an opinion.

i can't imagine that everything you do is "natural" and "normal". i've been trying for years to understand what makes these distinctions. do you experience prejudice against yourself for any of your behaviors, quirks, or desires?

i don't recall ever reading in the bible a definition of love. it does mention that god is love though. that i remember. love is patient, and kind, and does not envy, and more specifically; "love never falls in ruins; but whether prophecies, they will be abolished; or tongues, they will cease; or knowledge, it will be superseded". so i think that if you KNOW the definition of love, i wager you are wrong. love IS love, and isn't wrong.

but then, i could be wrong, and i'll be buying my slaves tomorrow.

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2nd-Jun-2004 09:01 pm (UTC)
Justin, meet Sharon. Sharon, meet Justin. Why I haven't done this before, I'm sure I don't know - you two should get along famously! Add bghsmith, and let the fun begin!
2nd-Jun-2004 09:23 pm (UTC)
heya! :)

i need to read the tos of lj again, but i think it'd be great fun to make a community called something like anti-anti-gay. whoot! :D

i have a difficult time engaging with stupid people. it does really bad things to my health and sanity. i tend to go bezerker or something.
2nd-Jun-2004 10:10 pm (UTC)
Don't forget me in that mee-and-greet!!! I'm just about to go over & check this community out. Bunch of sorry ass people with nothing better to do as far as I'm concerned.
3rd-Jun-2004 02:24 am (UTC)
hihi! :D

i think the word, "asshats" applies here. :)
3rd-Jun-2004 05:34 am (UTC)
I'd have to agree with you there. Of course, I can always come up with more colorful epithets when needed!
2nd-Jun-2004 10:30 pm (UTC) - the comment I left on that community
And another little contradiction you have going in your "rules" -
First you say First off: just because we are against something does not make us afraid of it. (homophobic) we aren't jealous or closed minded either.
Then you say 8. If you are here to be pro-gay or tell us we are in the wrong or to stereotype us, get a life and go away. We don't care, nor do we want to hear it.

You don't want to hear it? Then don't create a community where you should KNOW that's exactly what you're going to hear. I don't mind someone sharing a difference of opinion with me, I rather like to hear how the "other side", shall we say, thinks. You're right about one thing - just because you are against something, doesn't mean you're afraid of it. I'm personally against all these state & federal government entities trying to put into their constitutions who I can & cannot marry - to me, that's none of their business. But I'm not afraid of them doing so. What I am afraid of is people like you, and those in the government doing those types of things, who want to keep our world in the dark ages, and make all women barefoot & pregnant in the kitchen again. This is not 1950, this is no 1850, this is the year 2004. If you are not openminded enough to even LISTEN to what the other side thinks, then you have no business breathing the same oxygen I do.

Brad - I really fucking hate stupid people. I can get the shotguns - all I need is a clock tower.
3rd-Jun-2004 02:23 am (UTC) - Re: the comment I left on that community
screw the clock tower- there's water towers to be had!
3rd-Jun-2004 05:34 am (UTC) - Re: the comment I left on that community
Hells yeah - we're in the South - let's give one of'em a name & start firing!!!
3rd-Jun-2004 04:25 am (UTC) - Re: the comment I left on that community

cute, but I'm guessing this one was deleted =(
3rd-Jun-2004 05:33 am (UTC) - Re: the comment I left on that community
Buncha wusses!!
3rd-Jun-2004 05:11 am (UTC) - Re: the comment I left on that community
'Preciate it, sweetie!
3rd-Jun-2004 05:32 am (UTC) - Re: the comment I left on that community
Like you ever THOUGHT I would let someone get away with that bullshit without opening my big mouth. NOT!!! ;-)
3rd-Jun-2004 12:02 am (UTC) - *shakes head woefully*
Honestly, what did _fluz_ expect? Did she actually think she would get an actual educated discussion against homosexuality? It really gives me a headache to read or hear arguments on why homosexuality is wrong, but in the end, if people don't like you for something you can't control, there's little you can do to change their minds, which is unfortunate.

What also irks me are some "pro-gay" people's reactions to such crap. People who leave comments like, "I should fucking slit your throat... People like you deserve to be fucking choked to death. I hope you die. You`re a disgrace of a human being, you filthy piece of shit." Is this the kind of commenter we want to promote peaceful coexistence between gays and straights?
3rd-Jun-2004 05:16 am (UTC) - Re: *shakes head woefully*
YAY!! MY PHUONG CHIMES IN!! I'm pretty sure an angel somewhere just got its wings or soething!

Honestly sweetie, I don't think any forethought went into the creation of this community. There seldom is with rhetoric. And I agree 100% with you about the comments that toodlez left, I tried to reply and say as much but the account has been deleted.

Are you going to SF Pride? Have you even been to one? I think you'd be amazed to take part in something so unifying and pro-woman. ...Just a thought...

3rd-Jun-2004 10:38 am (UTC) - LOL!!!!
OK - this has now entered the realm of mock_the_stupid - go check it out, there's a WHOLE SLEW of comments on there you might find amusing. I've been a member of this community for a while now, and find it hysterical at times.

3rd-Jun-2004 11:20 am (UTC) - Just FYI...
She's gone in and deleted all non-supporting responsed from both the community journal and her own...but not before I got to post, if only for a moment, this:

Do you not have anything better to do than establish a community that continues to foster hate and violence in a world where there is plenty enough hate and violence to go around without your two cents?

I am reminded of a long-ago, oft-used quote that goes something like, "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much" which, in a nutshell, means that whomever is protesting the loudest often has something about themselves that they are not acknowledging. Are you scared of your own homosexual feelings? Do you have unresolved issues from your childhood that would have affected a healthy relationship with your own sexuality? It stands to reason, given some of your other self-proclaimed mental issues that they might all stem from the same experiences during your developmental stages.

Ultimately, I am driven to ask the question I ask everyone I encounter who has oppositions to homosexuality and it's affiliated issues (marriate, civil rights, adoption, etc), and that is: Why do you care? What's it to you? What difference does it make if two men fall in love with each other and want to enjoy the same civil securities as their heterosexual counterparts? Why are you so vested in what happens in the personal relationships between people of the same sex that you would take the time to actually creat a community designed to propagate hate?

The fact of the matter is that regardless of your "rules", you are perpetuating a hatred that is so unnecessary in a world where we certainly don't see enough communities called "Anti-child-molestors" or "Anti-Rape" or "Anti-Communism" or "Anti-Racism" or "Anti-Murder" or "Anti-Stealing" or "Anti-Screw-your-friends-over", but are overcome with vile, venomous sentiments that have nothing to do with the people spouting them.

Jesus, man. If you're going to get on a soap-box, stand up against the unfair persecution of the poor, stand up against the fact that we have thousands of homeless children starving on the streets and perfectly healthy foster children housed in mental institutions because the foster care system is so poorly funded.

You don't have to like gay people--although it's my guess that you've never taken the time to actually get to know a gay person, so how could you know you didn't like him or her, but that's a mute point, obviously--but don't like them on your own time, in your own mind, and save your hate-speech for people, things and ideals that deserve to be hated...

Either that, or answer the above questions with genuine resolve and prove to all of us that you have a justification in your ignorance.
3rd-Jun-2004 11:24 am (UTC) - Obviously--
I know how to spell "responses" and "marriage"....I just don't know how to type.
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