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Our Economy is the New Weapon of Mass Destruction. 
17th-Sep-2008 07:08 pm
Courtesy of Crooks & Liars:
Senators Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) and Bob Melendez (D-NJ) castigate the Republican policies of the Bush administration that have brought us to this point and how a John McCain presidency will be just more of the same. Senate Democrats:
Refusing to police lenders and neglecting to protect consumers enabled the subprime crisis that has brought first the American economy and now Wall Street to its knees. Bush-McCain Republicans’ “anything goes” approach to governing cost Americans jobs and hurts the American taxpayer. With the economic news only getting worse each day, Democrats believe that we must urgently pass another economic recovery package.
But Bob Geiger got the best statement on the state of the economy and John McCain from Sen. Bernie Sanders:
“One does try to get a handle on understanding what world Senator McCain and President Bush are living in when they would suggest that “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.’ Clearly, they have not been talking to working families around the United States of America.

“My perception of the economy is if you get off of the country club circuit, you stop talking to the millionaires and the billionaires and the large campaign contributors, and you talk to ordinary working people, people who own small businesses, what you find, in fact, is that the middle class in our country is under more assault than has been the case since before the Great Depression.”
Well said.
Of course, you'll never be able to explain this sort of logic and reason to some dumbfucks. The fundamental lessons that should have been learned from the climate of 1929-1941 (which yes, VERY MUCH DOES apply to current times) about living in excess and having capitalism going unchecked and unregulated will eventually spiral like it is.

This coming election is without a doubt in my mind the most important one in my lifetime.
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18th-Sep-2008 12:05 am (UTC)
Fair enough, but I'm not defending their shortcomings either - but it has to stop/start somewhere. But let's not pretend that it was the Democrats' legislation or the policies of liberals that create this kind of shitstorm where rich people getting richer at the expense of poor people and the middle class, i.e. most folks we know, because that got started with Nixon and was cheered on my Reaganomics.

Yes, they have all failed in preventing this from happening when you get down to brass tacks, but who set up the failure?
18th-Sep-2008 12:07 am (UTC) - um...
So, basically, you're doing the same thing that you bitch they are doing in exactly the same fashion?

How is making a blanket declaration that will obviously never happen make anything better?

I appreciate that you may be tired of this, I am tired too. But make no mistake - WORSE is coming. We need to amass the evidence. we need to be saying it, over and over again. Make it hard to ignore - not for you, but for the people trying to turn a blind eye.

When a house is burning, you don't ask questions or point blame. History will take care of that. You grab a bucket and start fighting the flames. ESPECIALLY when that house is yours.
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17th-Sep-2008 11:55 pm (UTC)
Intended for this current nightmare? No.
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18th-Sep-2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Not blaming the current administration, blaming the two claiming that the economy is fine. This all got footing long before the 90's - in fact, I go back to Nixon and Kaiser Permanente for where this got put in motion.

On that point I do not disagree.

On that point we TOTALLY agree.

Edited at 2008-09-18 12:11 am (UTC)
18th-Sep-2008 12:12 am (UTC)
I'd have to fully agree that there are plenty of Democrats that have contributed to this mess, and with the entire Congress and one-third of the Senate up for election, now is a great time to make a lot of changes in the House and Senate as well as in the White House.

So, now what are you doing to make that change?

If you don't think you can personally make a difference, go to Democracy For America's web site and see how many good, solid progressive candidates are in tough races that they can win, IF enough people who care start working to make the change.
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18th-Sep-2008 12:32 am (UTC)
That's not true at all. It's negative attitudes like this one that damn the state to a Republican hell.

GA for Obama is going quite strong, he hasn't "pulled most of his people."

Where do you get your stats?
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18th-Sep-2008 12:50 am (UTC)
My response is in your inbox.
18th-Sep-2008 01:00 am (UTC)
My point in the comment I made above is that there are hundreds of close races all across the country where a few dollars in contributions or a few hours of volunteer work can make a huge difference.

The power of the Internet and truly grassroots organizations like MoveOn and Democracy For America is in the ability to connect people in one part of the country with candidates in other parts of the country whose values make you want them in the House and Senate.

If you have given up on the election in your own state or congressional district, then get off your ass and get busy helping to win an election in another state.

My father lives in Nevada, and there is a great congressional race happening there. Dina Titus, a really smart and principled former political science professor and state legislator, has a good chance to take a congressional seat away from Republican incumbent Jon Porter. I live in Canada and my US vote is in California, because that is the last US state I lived in, but I can still make a difference in the Nevada campaign of Dina Titus, and I'm doing that.

If you really want change, then get out there and make a difference, and if you aren't sure how to do that, then the Democracy For America web site will give a dozen ways you can make a difference.
18th-Sep-2008 01:05 am (UTC)
Preaching to the choir, brother!
18th-Sep-2008 04:24 pm (UTC)
I know, but when I saw the comments from [Unknown LJ tag]xtex that seemed to suggest he was viewing things just in terms of the presidential race and just in terms of Georgia, I couldn't let that go by without comment. It just pisses me off no end when people make excuses for why they aren't doing anything constructive to make change happen.

From reading your journal, I know you are definitely not like that, nor are most of the people who comment in your journal. I'm glad to be able to read the opinions and information you post here, and your journal often motivates me to take action of my own to get America back on track.

I apologize if I came off as being critical of you or the readers of your journal who are working hard to get better political leadership in this time when it is so needed.
18th-Sep-2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not going to even pretend to understand that.

I'm constantly writing letters and making calls to my representatives, emails, politicians, you get the idea. This blog in many ways is my place to vent about the things that piss me off.

You have nothing to apologize for, babe. At all.
18th-Sep-2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
I saw that on WaPo, what a bunch of low class fucking sleazebags.
18th-Sep-2008 06:55 pm (UTC)
This coming election is without a doubt in my mind the most important one in my lifetime.

Couldn't possibly agree with you more. *sighs*
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