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16th-Mar-2008 10:08 pm
The Deep Blue Divide

For months, Democrats were just thrilled with their choices. Now they can't even stand to sit together.
For the past five years, a group of friends, mostly military wives or retired government workers, have been meeting for lunch at an Italian restaurant called Amici's in a strip mall in Stafford, Va. All Democrats, they don't come just for the wood-fired pizza or $8.99 lunch buffet. They come to talk about their beloved party. But lately, the air has chilled in the Tuscan-themed room.

At the lunch after Clinton's loss in Virginia, Alicia Knight, 49, a Hillary supporter, came in late. The only spare chair was between two Obama supporters, both old friends of Knight's. "I was so angry, I didn't want to sit between them, so I sat by myself at another table," she says. "It's become like the cold war: in order to maintain the relationship, you don't talk to each other." Recently, the Clinton and Obama groups began lunching separately. "We couldn't take the bashing, the smirkiness of the Obama fans," says Linda Berkoff, 63.

It's unclear exactly when the primaries stopped being a joyous occasion for the Democrats. But as the weeks have ground on, the intensity between Democrats who disagree has calcified, the vitriol grown fiercer. According to exit polling in the Texas primary, 91 percent of Clinton supporters said they would be dissatisfied with Obama as the nominee; 87 percent of Obama fans said they would be dissatisfied with Clinton. Nationally, a quarter of those who back Clinton say they'd vote for John McCain if Obama won the nomination (while just 10 percent of Obama supporters would do the same if he lost).

All this is keeping us from fighting the real enemy, too - the right-wing collective.

I'm finding it REALLY interesting that I'm coming across this story on the heels of the discussion I've been having for the past couple of hours. Frea-KAY.
17th-Mar-2008 02:16 am (UTC)
I really really don't want Obama to win, but there's no way in hell I'd vote for McCaine over him.
17th-Mar-2008 02:29 am (UTC)
I think the whole thing is monumentally stupid. Any Dem that gets into office will, at least, be leagues above any repuke Bush tool that get gets in.

The whole "I won't vote for the OTHER dem cuz wahh i didn't get my way" shit makes me want to slap the fuck out of people.

I mean sure, the whole Repuke vs. Dem electoral dynamic is just 2 heads of the same corporately controlled lobby industry that makes up the US government, but at least one of those heads doesn't try to fuck you over royally or send your kids off to some meatgrinder.

People need to relax, loosen their sphincters, and grow the fuck up. Remember Bush? Hello? You want another 4 years of that shit?

Does anybody down there have a memory that can outperform that of a goldfish anymore?
17th-Mar-2008 03:07 am (UTC)
I just responded to your nudge on the OTHER post...which I think pulls in some of the same threads you've noted here. To be honest, I originally decided to not support Obama a year ago *because* there was a particular snarkiness to the tenor of his support, along with a very notable lack of desire to compromise. That's *precisely* the sort of crap we've put up with for YEARS out of the right-wingers...and I had no desire to encourage it at the other end of the spectrum. It's interesting to see that I wasn't the only one to note that je-ne-sais-quoi emanating from the Obama campaign...but it's even more interesting that the campaign now has to either accomodate a compromise with the very people they've been dissing (like they were Republicans instead of less-liberal Democrats), or risk destroying any hope of having a unified party that can sweep these elections. It's time for Obama to put his campaign to work, doing what he's famous for doing: finding common ground that leaves NO ONE at a disadvantage and puts the greater good above short-term gains.

Damn...my leg hurts like it's been broken from a humping :)
17th-Mar-2008 04:42 am (UTC)
I'm seeing a lot of this kind of crap, too, and it really makes me do that "wtf?" head shake thing.

After two terms of disaster with W as president, the war in Iraq literally bleeding America dry and the economy tanking, I just cannot understand people who are wasting precious personal time and energy attacking other Democrats instead of doing everything possible to make sure that whoever ends up with the Democratic nomination has all the support necessary to CRUSH McCain and the Republican machine.

And if the presidential race is too problematical, then some of those folks ought to get busy with Democracy For America and get some progressives elected to the House and Senate and in state offices.

It is not like there is a shortage of work to do in reversing the damage done to the American political system by Rove and Cheney and the crazies of the fundamentalist religious organizations.
17th-Mar-2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
The article does a good job of pointing out that there's nothing new involved.

I, as you know, supported Edwards for the last year, before he dropped out, & I've thrown my support now whole-heartedly behind Obama. And though I have very strong reasons for preferring him and being less than happy about the prospect of a Clinton nomination, I also find it mind-blowing that anyone in the Democratic Party, supporting either of the two of them, would consider voting for McCain.
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