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Dispatches From The Neoconservative Father, Round 7,365,978 
6th-Jan-2008 12:06 am

My Daddy ONCE AGAIN sends an email to his list o' LIBRUL HATIN' bretheren, and of course adds me to said list. This one is that widely circulated tale of how Barack Obama is a RADICAL MUSLIM, BLAH BLAH BLAH RARR!! *FROTH*FROTH*FROTH*...

There's a part of me that has to wonder if he's not deliberately trying to get me to kick him in the ass for sending me this tripe, because all I need to do is click twice, maybe, and blow his shit out of the water with these nifty things I picked up somewhere called COMMON SENSE, LOGIC, REASON, AND TRUTH, otherwise known as conservative kryptonite.

When will he ever learn? Probably never - yeah, that would be the right answer. But I'm the only person in my entire family that will go toe to toe with him on an issue and never back down, no matter what it might cost me. It's called a standard for a reason, people - you're the same with everyone in your life, or you're a fucking pussy and you're not to be trusted with anything sacred or serious.

I never ask him to stop sending me emails - even if he knows I'm not interested in the subject and he knows that - I take responsibility for myself and read or not and reply or not should I choose to. This was me thinking that the subject of "Interesting Information" wouldn't be loaded with this kind of bullshit. W-R-O-N-G!

So here's what he sent and here are my responses to it.

[EDIT 12:40AM]
He's responded, and so have I. It's starting to get good again.

Subject: Interesting information
From: Daddy <daddy@iamjesus_h_biscuit'sfather.com>
oh, and my godless, queer, liberal son (PSSSST! - don't tell anyone...)

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM
from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii . When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro , a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.?
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia . Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it ap pear that
that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soeto ro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school
in Jakarta .

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since
it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of A llegiance nor
will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands
over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States , one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would y ou want this man leading
our country?...... NOT ME!!!

This is scary to think someone like this could possibly lead our country. But, lead the country to who knows where?
My response:
This is FRIGHTENINGLY ignorant and baseless propaganda, and is in fact a bunch of blatant lies. I'm not implying that you wrote this (I've seen it before), but you might want to consider the link below as a reply to everyone you sent this to. If you dislike Obama or cannot find anything redeeming in him or any other Democrat/Liberal, fine - but do so in fairness and on merit, not a pack of lies spun out by a bunch of chickenshit Republican cowards who cannot find dirt on the man and therefore choose to invent some to further their racist bullshit agenda, which is just one of the problems I have with this. Yes, RACIST. So what if his mother is white and his father was black, what does that possibly have to do with anything? If it doesn't matter, if it's inconsequential, why even bring it up as a talking point and make an issue of it? I call bullshit. It's dangerous at worst and pathetic at best buying in to lies - be better than that.

Read this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
His 1st response:
I did check it out and some of it is false but a lot of it is true. While you're looking at Snopes you might want to check out http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp At the same time he quit saluting the national anthem he also stopped wearing an American flag lapel pin as a protest against the Iraq war. Makes no difference what his color, background or political affiliation ....he is not presidential material in my book!
My 2nd response:
If you base him not being presidential material on the fact that he doesn't wear a pin or put his hand at a certain station, that's really sad. Neither of those things are even remotely important in contrast to the bigger picture of what it takes to run the country effectively. It's his right as an American citizen to protest the war, and it's not like his choice of protest is harming anyone. IT'S JUST A PIN. That pin isn't going to protect anything more than the .5" of material it covers on the man's suit for crying out loud, certainly not the American people or the soldiers fighting this stupid war.

Is that really your barometer for what constitutes a qualified candidate? Seriously?
6th-Jan-2008 05:18 am (UTC)
Beautifully done. I'm beginning to wonder why your father keeps doing this, when you rub his nose in it every time.

6th-Jan-2008 05:30 am (UTC)
Well, MY dad pushes me because I think he has fun with it. Seriously, some people enjoy this sort of interaction.
6th-Jan-2008 05:41 am (UTC)
While my father is very smart and a self made man, I don't think he's that clever. I think he subconsciously does this because I make him work for it, and it's intellectual exercise for him - he never gets that in his crowd, and I think he needs it.
6th-Jan-2008 06:18 am (UTC)
That's sort of what I meant, too. Of course, Dad ruins it half the time by telling me to then shut up, but at least it's only half the time!
6th-Jan-2008 05:33 am (UTC)
I think that subconsciously he gets bored surrounding himself only with those who agree with him, because it's not in keeping with conservative Christians to cut against the grain and think about things critically. In my own way, I really challenge him and he enjoys it. I just don't think he sets out to make that happen is all.
6th-Jan-2008 12:07 pm (UTC)
I would much prefer to have a president who spits on the flag but honors the constitution, than one who honors the flag but spits on the constitution (like we have now).
6th-Jan-2008 12:18 pm (UTC)

Too bad I have lost all faith in the integrity of the electoral system. I"m fearful we'll live the remainder of our lives in a Christian fundamentalist dictatorship.

Edited at 2008-01-06 12:20 pm (UTC)
7th-Jan-2008 07:15 am (UTC)
A friend today was telling me she'd watched the Sunday morning talking-heads shows and that she was afraid Huckabee already has the whole thing in his pocket - not just the Republican nomination, but the election. And all I can think of is that Stephen King novel The Dead Zone and hope that someone crazier than me and a good shot will think of it, too ....
6th-Jan-2008 02:53 pm (UTC)
My mother does this kind of thing because it gets her attention, or used to until I realised why she does it. Sad to think of one's parents as being that childish but there ya go.
6th-Jan-2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
I have friends and acquaintances sitting at every point on the political circle (not a continuum...walk far enough in "either" direction and you wind up back where you started). I try to remember that different people have different perspectives, opinions, and preferences. Even so, it remains a shock when intelligent people say stupid things. Just the other day, I heard a 70something say, in so many words, that it doesn't bother him that Obama's black, but he can't be trusted because his name and background mean he could "turn on us" and become a terrorist if he gets into office. Uhhh...

>[AMP]<   >[OIL]<   >[CHECK ENGINE]<

My brain just stalled and won't restart.

I just don't know that there's any effective rejoinder to this kind of voluntary, willful ignorance and stupidity. OK, so the guy's a longtime fish-decal christian (lowercase "c" deliberate), and that involves a great deal of thoughtless rote memorisation and parroting of received Truth™, but still, I know this guy has a functional brain. He's choosing not to use it. That's frightening and sad. And that's before we even get to any kind of analysis of what he said (the current resident is the poster child for turning into a terrorist once in office, and if he isn't bothered by Obama's being black, why even bring it up, etc.)


(And...not to take away from the weight of the matter under discussion, but how d'you do those boxes around text?)

Edited at 2008-01-06 04:41 pm (UTC)
6th-Jan-2008 06:48 pm (UTC)
We think alike in numerous ways, I love it!

That's easy:
<blockquote style="border:1px solid gray;padding:10px 10px 10px 10px">TEXT HERE</blockquote>
If you want a dashed border, substitute the word "dashed" for the word "solid". If you want the border to be a different color, specify it by name as in the above example, where I've chosen gray.
7th-Jan-2008 03:38 am (UTC)
Your father's response is a pathetic cop-out. Zero thought behind it, just a simple, reflexive knee-jerk. Sort of like my friend with his thoughtless babble about Obama the "terrorist risk". I would have a great deal more respect for him if he were to say "I don't like Obama because I disagree with him on <issue1, issue2, issue3>" or "I don't want Obama because I just don't think he's got enough experience". I would disagree with him, but at least he'd've put some thought into it. Compared to what he said, I'd even have more respect for him if he just came right out and said "I don't like the idea of a black president." I'd vehemently disagree with him, and lose virtually all respect for him overall, but at least I'd have to acknowledge that he was honest and not trying to hide behind a bullshit disclaimer of "of course I'm not racist, but...".

Thanks for the instructions on how to make a border.
7th-Jan-2008 03:41 am (UTC)
I concur fully!

You're welcome, love!
13th-Jan-2008 11:17 pm (UTC)
i dont have an account so i dunno if itll let me do this, but heres my response. i dont mind that hes muslim or black or any of that. what bothers me is the whole not saluting the flag and not saying the anthem and so on. i understand that he is against the war and wants to protest, but why do it in a way that makes it seem like he is not in fact supportive of the country he wants to run? he may not support what its doing, but he should support the country itself. i think the rest of the article is superfluous, but thats what gets me.
14th-Jan-2008 01:01 am (UTC)
Is that YOU, Daddy?

First, HE'S A CHRISTIAN, NOT A MUSLIM!!!! Jesus H. Christ - do some investigation!

Second, if it didn't matter in the email what his race was (or that of his parents), why even bring it up? If it is of no consequence, why make a point of bringing it up? I asked this in a pointed, simple question and was not given an answer, the question was in fact ducked. He does that to me a lot when I call these sorts of things out, it speaks volumes to me about not having an argument and/or being unwilling to admit when you're wrong, which he rarely ever does.

Third, the point for me is that flags and pins and anthems are all fine and well, but they're hollow gestures compared to doing the actual job of running the country. It's a ridiculous notion to think that this brand of patriotism is the end-all be-all say-all of qualifications for the Presidency. Bush was a C student, and we see what having a mediocre mind does for the highest office in the land. We don't even let engineers who build sheds in people's backyards get away with grades like that. I'm not Obama's biggest fan, but at least he can speak without making up words and sounding like a complete moron. There are actual books written about the volume of times Bush says something completely stupid. On the top of it, Laura Bush is a librarian... What the hell, man?

The objection he raises, the issues he makes in protest, they're NOT being un-supportive of the country, they're un-supportive of the people who have lead us into disastrously bad choices and damage that will take YEARS to undo. It's protest of that. Who runs for President of a country they're not supporting? That doesn't even make sense, think about what you're saying.

At the end of the day, as my friend says "I'd rather have a President that spits on the flag than one that spits on the Constitution."

Edited at 2008-01-17 08:13 pm (UTC)
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