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19th-Aug-2007 02:20 pm
In an interview with Amy Winehouse's mother, the Daily Mail quotes Janis Winehouse has having said the following:
Janis says: "My son Alex and I drove down to the hotel to see her the day after she had the 'accident'.

"I thought I was prepared for what was to come but when we walked into her room, she looked terrible. She was lucky to be alive.

"Alex said to her, 'You're going to kill yourself. You're not going to live to 25, you know that don't you? Are you happy your life is like this?'

"She didn't have an answer. She didn't say anything, not a word. She was curled up on the bed and we told her she would have to go to rehab. She was saying, 'No, no, no. I don't want to go.'"
I cannot decide if this is truly funny or just pathetic.
19th-Aug-2007 06:40 pm (UTC)
Not funny. It is truly pathetic. I do love her record, but had a sinking feeling that here's another young person who's going to be imprisoned in a childish "image" that gives them prominence.

I was thinking this morning about Jimi Hendrix, how revolutionary the image of the "black man on acid" with cosmic consciousness was. (I guess because of the Patti Smith cover of "Are you Experienced?") But he did smack and died at 26, a great loss. Smack tells you you won't really "die".

I wish her health, even if she mutates into a Celine Dion figure. Too many young people would follow her if she died, like the idiots who got addicted in Charlie Parker's wake (Parker died of another condition, btw).

BTW, I'd have to hear the recording of this interview, the quote is suspiciously too-cute.
19th-Aug-2007 06:45 pm (UTC)
Personally? Sad. Just sad. Why should we even devote one iota of time to these so-called "celebrities" who have done NOTHING for the community other than whine and bitch about their lives and how (insert some excuse...sad, poor, boring, etc.) their life is and how they turned to drugs to cope.


"Bitches, puh-lease. You sit on your rich-bitch asses snorting the equivalent of my yearly salary into your nose, wearing clothes I will never, EVER be able to buy, much less care to pronounce, in a house whose monthly mortgage would feed fifteen villages in Africa, and you want to talk about BROKE? Hell with you and your problems. You want problems? Come to Mississippi, where the heat is unforgiving, the hotels are, at best, three-star, and you live in a rented house with less than 1000 square feet and your suppers start with the words Hamburger Helper. Try working in a factory where you get into metal containers and unload boxed wooden furniture continually, under a blazing sun and sweat drips off your nutsack and face in rhythm, while feeling a feebly-pumped blow of hot air coming into your workspace via a fan that vibrates so loudly, you would SWEAR it was made for lesbians. THEN tell me about how much your life sucks. BITCH, YOU DON'T KNOW ME!"

*sigh* I'm done :)
19th-Aug-2007 07:19 pm (UTC)
Yep. And yet we're so disdainful of celebrities who appear, by and large, to be "clean" and "nice" and grateful for their fans and celebrity because they're not edgy enough.
19th-Aug-2007 07:23 pm (UTC)
That's true, too. But I'm always appreciative of those few celebrities who acknowledge the public, and who don't flaunt their lifestyles in front of those who don't have the same social status as they do *cough PARIS HILTON cough* and displaying some holier-than-thou mentality and expecting us to bask in it.

We made the celebrities, we can break them just as easily
(to paraphrase Dr. Frank-N-Furter)
19th-Aug-2007 07:33 pm (UTC)
There have been some in the past who had problems, who I can believe were *truly* problems because of an event or trying to do something creative that hadn't been done and facing problems for it. But the new vogue seems to be personally "edgy" for edgy's sake - which isn't even really edgy anymore, it's so common. (Edgy is the new black I guess?)
19th-Aug-2007 08:15 pm (UTC)
Artists who don't live on the edge don't make good art. They never have. Commercially successful, sentimental, platitudinous art - yes. Good art, influential art - no.

People who aren't artists can never understand them, artists are monsters of a sort, but the work that artists do is the only thing that's lasting in our civilization, and it's our only communication to the future and the past.

19th-Aug-2007 08:41 pm (UTC)
I make my living as a writer, and I have my own demons and annoyances and pain. I just don't go around spreading a thick coat of it on everything I do and everyone I meet. Only a few people in this world know my *real* problems, and if that's shallow, so be it.
20th-Aug-2007 09:03 pm (UTC)
" Artists who don't live on the edge don't make good art."

Nah. That is romanticizing the artist: if you aren't messed up, you won't make great art. I think that is bullshit. We are outcasts in what we do, we see things and communicate differently, we see the world differently than others do, and yes, that does cause friction and trouble sometimes, and that may create antisocial behavoir and a need for an outlet to communicate what we feel, what we hear and see, etc., sure, but when I am wracked with depression and anxiety attacks, I don't feel like creating; I want to curl up in a ball and disappear. When I'm in the throes of feeling like shit, I want a normal life so I can write and paint and just function.
PS. I don't think Amy Winehouse makes great art.
21st-Aug-2007 01:41 am (UTC)
It's a good excuse for assholes to get away with acting like assholes, so long as they have a smidge of talent at something, yes. Meanwhile, it's up to responsible relatives and friends to make sure the bills get paid, apologies get made, and the world is properly "greased" for these people to continue to act as they please.
20th-Aug-2007 08:54 pm (UTC)
Billie Holiday sounded like ass when she was strung out on heroin. She could barely string a sentence together, much less make great art.

I understand these artists having tough lives, and thier struggles show up in their music, writing, etc. but when they are all messed up, they don't make great art.

And, of course, not all meesed up people make great art.
19th-Aug-2007 09:11 pm (UTC)
mother also says: "The same day, I had to take the family cat Katie to the vet. I dropped off the cat, went to the school and then went back to the vet's. We had the cat put down. My joke is I should have had Amy put down and the cat moved on."

you think that's funny, mummy?

it isn't fucking funny.

no wonder your kid's a freakin time bomb.

- J.
21st-Aug-2007 01:38 am (UTC)
No, it's not funny. But maybe Mummy's had to hold her hand through every day of her life and worry 24/7 because she's been self-destructive for longer than this. I know a couple whose 19-year-old daughter has pulled every dirty, shitty trick in the book to get out of having to act at all responsible in her life, and while everyone makes excuses for her attempts at attention and talks about her "pain," she takes advantage of it to skip about and go where she wants, do what she wants, with whomever she wants, anytime she wants. (It IS funny that the only time she's "in pain" is when someone requires her to act like an 18-year-old human being with some sense of responsbility. But not funny "haha.")
19th-Aug-2007 09:12 pm (UTC)
I'm late to the party. I just heard her music for the first time a few weeks ago.
20th-Aug-2007 12:16 am (UTC)
I don't get your point here.
20th-Aug-2007 02:14 am (UTC)
The lyrics to her most popular song (entitled "Rehab", released on last year's album "Back To Black") say:

"They tried to make me go to rehab, I said no, no, no..."
20th-Aug-2007 02:26 am (UTC)
OMG, that is hilarious!
20th-Aug-2007 03:25 am (UTC)
Really, it's just sad. How many of these celebrities are fucking messes?? What does that say about our society that these people are glorified and every detail of their life is on display for everyone to see, even though we know they're self-destructing and burning out? *sighs*
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