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7th-Oct-2006 05:51 pm
Things that make you go “Huh?”

People for the American Way:

A far right Catholic group that thinks Bill Gates and Warren Buffet should be reviled for their humanitarian work (saying "they have money, we have God"), objects to a vaccine to inoculate women against cervical cancer, and thinks that Mel Gibson's ‘apology' after his "unfortunate relapse in his fight with alcohol," and "some imprudent comments made while in that state "is enough to say "case closed, move on," has this to say about the Mark Foley revelations that he was abused by a member of his clergy:

"If his claim that he was the victim of sexual molestation by a clergyman, it only further proves that known homosexuals should not be admitted to the priesthood. Foley's actions were that of homosexual predator, not a pedophile. Homosexuals reproduce sexually by molesting children. (emphasis added) This creates a cycle of violence and disordered behavior that creates future generations of abusers and predators." Read on…

The group, Human Life International, claims to have 59 satellite offices in 51 countries and describes itself as "the largest international, pro-life, pro-family, pro-woman organization in the world.”

Do you see the dangers of not teaching sex ed in the schools? Even a basic biology class could have helped these guys.

Quick lesson, folks: Repeat After Me: "Gay" and "Pedophile" Are Not Remotely Related

8th-Oct-2006 02:21 am (UTC)
Homosexuals reproduce sexually by molesting children.0-o

Are they saying that homosexuals abuse children to mess them up and "turn them into" homosexuals? Am I supposed to breathe the same air as these people? Is this kind of ignorance infectious?

What did I tell you? I TOLD you this would happen. I KNEW the CCS (The Crazy Christian Sector) would use this to bash gays. Pedophile priests are homos, ergo evil. Homosexual politicians are pedophiles, ergo evil... now we have homosexuals reproduce by molesting children. I swear, they cough this shit up from the very bowels of their stupidity and ignorance. It's not right that I should want to set them alfame. I should pray that one day their ignorance will clear up, like diaper rash off the tender bottom of a newborn babe...
8th-Oct-2006 02:37 am (UTC) - Things that make you go " Wait...fucking WHAT?!?"
I just have to say this: I am so sorry that homosexuals have to deal with this kind of ignorance on a daily basis. Human sexuality is the final frontier. Not space, not quantum physics -human sexuality. And, my brothers and sisters, we are virtually in the dark ages when it comes down to understanding it. We are in the Puritan age of understanding, which is, trust me, even worse.

Until we, as a society, come to terms with the nature of our sexuality, how vast, how complex, and yes, how unbridled, naked, wet and juicy and hot it all really is,
many of us will be burned at the stake, as in the time of rampant ignorance. I pray for tolerance and I pray for patience. Gays need to be patient as the rest of the world comes to terms that it's not all black and white, tab A goes into slot (or slit) B, and that is that. What can I say except please forgive our ignorance and continue to lead by example, enlighten the ignorant, and keep lines of communication open, and education at the forefront.

Whenever an ignorant person comes into my personal space, or within hearing range, and says something abominably ignorant about a certain race or sexual orientation, I give them an earful. Sometimes it starts with, "You gotta be fucking kidding me. You actually believe that?" I know that is rather confrontational, but so is, "You know, gays molest children to turn them gay so they can start a gay army" and "Mexicans breed roaches. Wherever there are Latinos, you'll find roaches." Those kinds of statements are as confrontational as stepping up and farting in my face. It's offensive and it plain fucking stinks.

And, fuck it, it's my right to clear the air when that happens.
8th-Oct-2006 06:09 am (UTC)
So THAT'S what I have been doing wrong... if I want a baby, I guess I have to stick my gay dick in a 9 year old.

If only my father taught me the homo birds and bees.
8th-Oct-2006 07:08 am (UTC)
I have an older friend who absolutely refuses to call gay anything other than a learned perversion (you're not born that way, you're MADE that way by negative childhood experiences and older gay men preying on you when you're young, fresh meat). According to her, psychiatrists under pressure from gay groups caved in decades ago and said being gay was an inborn preference rather than a learned behavior.

And yeah, gay people are pedophiles. It's why they shouldn't be allowed to adopt.

Also, all lesbians either like to abuse women or enjoy being abused.

I have no words (for her, I do - we have argued this for years, me pushing her to name ONE study proving any of this). It's hard for me to fathom how a person who is usually reasonable about most other things sociologically and politically connected can keep believing all of this. (Obviously, the way I've phrased those first paragraphs indicate I don't agree with her and I'm being sarcastic.)
8th-Oct-2006 12:38 pm (UTC)
By her standard of logic then clearly she was inherently a lesbian before she actively CHOSE to be a heterosexual. Having made the choice to go against her innate sexuality is an abnormal deviancy. Either that, or her entire argument crumbles, so there's your loophole.
10th-Oct-2006 05:44 am (UTC)
I saw some talk show promo the other day that was going to be about polyamorous relationships (which, relationships I can handle - marriages I really don't like. I'm of the "two adults, any two adults" camp, but that's irrelevant to my point here). I know people who like to point to that and go "See what the gays have unleashed with their demands?" I was thinking of a variation on that - "See what happens when heteros demand special treatment, like tax breaks, and automatic inheritance rights, and ease of adoption?" (All of which come with that marriage license.)
8th-Oct-2006 10:03 am (UTC)
I have come to refer to the far right religious organizations as "the cult of ignorance".

I rest my case.
8th-Oct-2006 01:33 pm (UTC)
Hmmmmm...I always reproduced sexually by molesting married men at the Y. I guess I've been doing it wrong all this time. I am probably the penultimate example of "gay" and "pedophile" not being related. From 18 on, I damn near had a sign on my head that read "you must be at least 35 to ride this ride", but that's just me.
8th-Oct-2006 04:54 pm (UTC)
We need to find a new way to combat this. Every debate we try to have with them starts off with us pointing out a legitimate concern, then they make some wild, outlandish claim, which we have to back up and refute. It's a destraction and it keeps working. We should not lower ourselves to trying to explain definitive facts to them. We need to find a way to say "Oh, I see - you're an idiot. We'll move on to talk to someone who knows what they're talking about. Come back when you live in the real world."
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