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27th-Aug-2002 06:57 am
In response to the topic of abortion, Pro-Life ~Vs~ Pro-Choice and all that jazz, before I am Pro-Choice (and I am), I'm Pro-Sexual Responsibility.

If you're a male (meaning you have a penis, a questionable conscience, and are by default the weaker sex), just remember this: YOU DON'T HAVE A UTERUS, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. Being a gay male, I'm already doing my part for population control. I'm not impregnating anyone, so those rules don't apply to me.

People who act irresponsibly with sex need to be beaten severely with blunt objects about the head and face. Barring base level common sense, there are too many options for not ever being in the situation in the first place as long as one takes the basic elementary precautions.

And while I'm on the subject, it is worth mentioning that I reject that lame, weak assed "Women have to bear the burden of responsibility with pregnancy AND with abortion, and this is unfair" bullshit argument that people try and pass off as if it were legitimate. Face it, girls - if you're gonna open your legs, you're making the choice to accept that ANY number of things can and will happen. Excluding cases of rape, ya KINDA have to be responsible for your own body and what does or does not get put into it.

My sisters: If you're on the pill, better use contraceptive foam, a diaphragm, take a morning after pill, and STILL always make him wear a Jimmy Hat. If he won't wear one and you still have sex with him, anything that happens from that moment on is YOUR fault and yours alone... So don't bitch to me about your unfair burden, because you're asking for that verbal Ricky Fitz™ style bitch slap I'm saving just for you...
27th-Aug-2002 08:27 am (UTC)

I hear ya - especially on the part about if you're gonna open your legs, you're making the choice. Too many women these days don't take enough responsibility for their actions. They want to blame anyone else but themselves.
28th-Aug-2002 05:27 am (UTC) - ::nods affirmatively::
Here Here!
27th-Aug-2002 11:46 am (UTC) - ::crosses legs::
it sucks that we have to bear the responsibility but youre so right. i think its much easier for girls to say no more than guys. our sex drive is just different. guys let their other "head" lead the way. not saying they shouldnt be responsible for their actions just saying a girl should think more before she does ANYTHING because well, we're the one thats gonna have to deal with a lil suzy or jimmy poppin outta us 9 months later. its sad but many people ive talked to here in college are totally clueless about sexual protection, when they're ovulating and everything. it amazes me that its always the ignorant people that have more sex than anyone else. i guess thats just life :-/
27th-Aug-2002 04:04 pm (UTC) - Re: ::crosses legs::
guys let their other "head" lead the way.

now, now..we all know what happens when you make a generalization like this..

as for the ignorant ppl comment..well yeah, that makes sense because they are, in fact, ignorant to what could happen..what gets ME is when the ppl that DO know alot about it are still irresponsible, and still have sex like there's no tomorrow..but hey, that's just me..

as far as abortion goes, i don't really have much of an opinion on it because the debate is neverending, and i don't feel like wasting my time on forming an opinion on something like that..unless it's religion..but that's another arguement :)
27th-Aug-2002 11:47 am (UTC) - It takes two...
Being also a gay male, I don't have this problem. However, I feel just as strongly as you on this point. Though, I don't think it is entirely the female participants responsibility. The way you describe it, men have no responsibilty to own up to when it comes to sex, and that's just plain silly. I think a man has just as much responsibility as his partner. After all, save for the services of your local Sperm Bank, it takes two to get pregnant. In my opinion, unplanned pregnancy is the fault and responsibility of both parents. Period. If you're going to fuck around and not be safe and you get pregnant, you have the moral and ethical obligation to take care of your business. Whether that is carrying the baby to term and raising it to be a productive member of our "great" society, or running down to your local abortion clinic and taking care of it that way, you both need to do something about it.

My 2¢

27th-Aug-2002 03:51 pm (UTC) - Re: It takes two...
i'm much in agreement with you that it takes two and should therefore be the responsibility of both parties...but when it comes down to it, you're basing this on a responsible guy that's got some code of moral ethics when the sad truth is that there are a lot of guys out there who just don't think the way you do. if a girl gets pregnant, she can't run from that responsibility (although i'd love to see some idiot trying to run away from her stomach; that'd amuse me greatly) whereas guys can always argue that it isn't their's, or they can just flatout disappear. although i do feel that the woman should have the choice to decide what she does with her body and what she carries around in it, i don't feel that it's right for a woman to go fuck around all the time and have an abortion whenever she's too stupid to make the guy wear a raincoat in virginia. if you mess up once, okay, get an abortion and spare a child the pain of growing up with an ignorant, irresponsible parent that never wanted that child in the first place. but after that, shouldn't the woman learn to keep her legs together??? i also don't think it'd be particularly fair to make a woman who was raped, and therefore the victim of a brutal crime, bear a child conceived in such a way, and i really don't think the kid would want to grow up knowing that was how they were conceived either. i guess abortion should be banned for hoes that are going to have one every few months or so....i really don't know where i stand in all this, but it's interesting to ponder...
27th-Aug-2002 02:40 pm (UTC) - :)
a word from the debater-
my personal choice would always be prolife. BUT thats me. i don't decide for other females. its thier choice so my political view is prochoice. and you are 100% about girl having sexual responsibilites just as much as the guy. they both should feel comfrtable going into whereever and both getting thier 'supplies' they not only need to look out for themselves but each other. sex isn't about sex, its about sharing yourself-so share wisely. :)
27th-Aug-2002 04:28 pm (UTC)
do you know where i can find tabs???
27th-Aug-2002 07:23 pm (UTC)
Tabs for what, hon?
28th-Aug-2002 06:15 am (UTC) - Re:
jennifer nettles
27th-Aug-2002 09:49 pm (UTC)

My god...*standing ovation* I would kiss you but since the idea of how I still haven't met you yet kinda gets in the way :) I like Maryanne's idea of how before people have kids..they have to take a parenting class and then be allowed to (if they pass).
29th-Aug-2002 08:53 am (UTC)
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