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Roberts,, Frist, Santorum, Palmeiro, Phelps, and a nosebleed 
7th-Aug-2005 12:38 pm
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John Roberts - friend or foe? Definitely friend OF foe, that much is certain. So much is on tilt right now that it is hard to determine - however, when shitwhack right wing organizations like the Family Research Council get wind of his pro-bono involvement in helping out a gay rights group lobbying the Supreme Court in a landmark victory for us, the funniest things happen. You can practically see the fundies shitting themselves while spinning the entire story. With his record stance on Roe V. Wade and his involvement in the election theft of 2000, I'm not convinved he's as impartial as one should be, lest we have another Scalia on the bench. This latest revelation, however, does make for a more impartial case in his favor.

What the hell is going on everywhere else? Are the Republicans in power starting NOW to distance themselves from the incompetent Shrub once the bag of tricks has been exhausted? In a little over a week, Bush's Iraq credibility is now even being questioned by the neocons and yet MORE vacation time being taken under scrutiny from anyone with even a misfiring synapse, Frist's swing favoring stem cell research, Santorum's move away from his original stance on teaching evolution and now being critical of teaching 'intelligent design' in classrooms - but then ol' Rick's poll numbers are down, on with the politicking! Tell me you couldn't smell THAT one like a fart in a car. Oh yeah - speaking of Bush missing out on evolution, (laugh now, you'll never hear that sentence again) he's still adamant about his confidence in Karl Rove having done nothing wrong in the Plamegate scandal, again endorsing Christian conservative efforts to teach 'intelligent design' as an alternate to evolution, and now publically offering his support of Rafael Palmeiro's innocence of steroid abuse - even though he tested positive. Yeah. Who remembers the congressional hearings on this bullshit a while back, and how ridiculous it was even then? Fuck, I'm a MLB fan myself and I couldn't (and still can't) understand how this was made an issue that merited congressional hearings, especially during wartime. He stated point blank that he'd never used steroids. Now he tests positive for them. Why does this even matter to Herr Shrub? Hmmm, might this be his thank you for Palmeiro's campaign contribution? It's all here in WaPo.

And now, for a few words on the Fred Phelps Cult. I know that every time he makes a stink or pickets a funeral of a gay person (now a favored target is soldiers), that some feel diminished as people and deeply offended. And it's hard not to, I understand that. Sites dedicated to tracking him and his banjo picking, sibling fucking, eleven fingered family and their 'church', such as God Hates Homophobes, Baptist Watch don't really tell you the thing that matters most - the fact that it doesn't matter.

Here's the thing with Fred & Company, they don't count. Giving them attention and power only titilates them. They live on the hope that someone will try to stifle their free speech rights (which, I hate to break it to you, is and should be protected speech) or cause injury so they can sue and make money. That's what they do. They're a family of lawsuit happy lawyers picking up his slack from subsequent disbarrment. Whether they really believe the bullshit they preach or not is insignificant, they're American citizens and as such are free to believe whatever bullshit they choose. Don't like it? Don't listen to it. Ignore it. If he pickets a funeral or a school or a pride parade, while highly offensive and disrespectful, it is hardly criminal. They're not taken seriously by anyone that matters enough to claim a position of power and really impact your life. Even pigfuckers like Louis P. Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition for Jesus Nazis don't know what to do about him, except make baseless assertions about how Fred is actually helping the GLBT community. Yeah, that's what gave me the nosebleed. A group like this is one you need to be concerned about, as they not only curry favor with the White House, but with all right wing politicians and their constituencies. Don't be concerned with Fred, be concerned with the Traditional Values Coalition, and here's why. Worry about Focus on the Family, the AFA, Concerned Bitches for America, the Eagle Forum, and the Chistian Coalition. They're the ones to watch. And who else? They come from all over the place clamoring for their 15 minutes. Check out the American Taliban, you'll see. Just don't waste your time getting worked up over Fred & the family. The sooner they stop getting attention, the sooner they'll move to Guyana and I can send them parcels of special Kool Aid. So basically what I'm saying here to that effect is pay no mind to the rabid fundie with no power whatsoever and he'll eventually go away. Help me help you, you know?
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7th-Aug-2005 04:46 pm (UTC)
I cannot tell you how much joy it brings my heart to know these things. I've missed your news feeds. :) I wanted to mention how I'm always fascinated at which pictures they show of Shrub. Lately he looks like some soulless fuckwit.
7th-Aug-2005 04:54 pm (UTC)
Thanks, hon!

Did you see this? You'll laugh your ASS off.
7th-Aug-2005 08:23 pm (UTC)
Ya- LOVE the Daily Show. :D Always one of my favorites, woooooords...
7th-Aug-2005 11:50 pm (UTC)
LATELY?
8th-Aug-2005 02:27 am (UTC)
I was feeling generous this morning. :D

Nah, mostly, I've been noticing that the media is PICKING the fuckwit looking pics. Either that, or he really CAN'T help looking like that.
7th-Aug-2005 04:58 pm (UTC)
Yesterday I watched TV for the first time in ages and noticed that there was some pretty sharp criticism of the Bush administration on of all things, Fox News. I was astounded. The broadcast still reeked of jingoism though.

I agree with you wholeheartedly about Fred Phelps and his minions. They don't matter. Why even give them power over one's mind by taking offense at what they do.
7th-Aug-2005 08:43 pm (UTC)
Any time FN appears nonpartisan, I take it with a grain of salt.
7th-Aug-2005 11:52 pm (UTC)
The truly *nice* thing about Fox News is they are worried enough about losing viewers that they'll blow with whichever way the wind is going, like a weathervane. So if they're criticizing Bushie-boy, you can bet public opinion isn't all that good about him. Cause for dancing a bit of a jig, I suppose.

Then again, people are so easily swayed by emotion that we're always only another airliner or four from Bush being back in the majority public's good graces, I say.
7th-Aug-2005 05:11 pm (UTC)
It's good to have you back! You always get my blood boiling, keep me informed far beyond what I would normally achieve and help me to keep in mind the importance of activism. Thanks.
7th-Aug-2005 08:44 pm (UTC)
I'm hot blooded by nature, if that explains anything, lol.
7th-Aug-2005 05:18 pm (UTC)
You are a master of the written word , a dangerously funny man
and you have outstanding politics !

Be Well ~ Fela
7th-Aug-2005 08:45 pm (UTC)
You give me WAY too much credit, m'dear - but thankies all the same.
7th-Aug-2005 09:06 pm (UTC) - honestly
Ah and you are modest as well.
I really do enjoy all of your writing it's a gift !
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7th-Aug-2005 08:45 pm (UTC)
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7th-Aug-2005 06:59 pm (UTC) - Sorry, but I must disagree on one point.
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I think the Fred Phelps Cult must be watched, counter-demoed, and used. Not because I think they are powerful as Focus on the Family, the AFA, Concerned Bitches for America, the Eagle Forum, and the Chistian Coalition, but for every little queer growing up in shrub's america who'll hate themselves that much more if we don't.

Anybody a real christian out there? How about holding a prayer vigil at Fred's next appearance? Signs like "GOD HATES?", "WHO ELSE DID GOD TELL YOU THEY HATE?", and "WHY IS ONLY ONE PART OF LEVITICUS IMPORTANT?", seen by the media (and broadcast) at their manifestations could show our trapped sisters and brothers (and others) that there is some hope.
I worry about the ones we leave behind us.

that (thinking up here, by the sea) DadBear

p.s. thanx for stirring the pot, you make an old shit disturber start thinking about stuff again.
7th-Aug-2005 08:54 pm (UTC) - Re: Sorry, but I must disagree on one point.
I agree with you on the point that we must do more to instill self respect in younger generations to help counter self loathing, but I'd much rather it became the responsibility of Christians to counter his rhetoric. I don't even believe in God, so I'll not go there. Having dealt personally with this group before, I know that there's no point in trying to argue with them - but I agree that the complacency about their antics breeds negative results in GLBT youth. I would venture to guess that the religious right and the GOP have historically done their fair share in these capacities as well, so I'm trying to encourage a more wise picking of battles.

And you're quite welcome.
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7th-Aug-2005 09:35 pm (UTC)
Right off the bat, I was being being sarastic. It's a public journal on the internet, Damon - I'm so sure I'm going to suggest or advocate the killing of some unsavory public figure on the goddamned internet for fuck's sake. Don't speak to me about being a really sad individual if I wouldn't shed a tear if Phelps or anyone connected to him were to drop dead, it's sanctimonious and suggests some moral superiority over me on your part and you don't know me well enough to make a judgement call like that.

Don't opine about not understanding how I can be entitled to my anger over the right, neocons, conservatives, etc. and use that as some weak effort to argue First Amendment rights - I have made it clear that they have just as much right to say what they feel as anyone else does, and if you bothered to read the entire post instead of editing out the bits you don't like (which, I'll take time to point out, you've accused me of in the past - hypocrisy much?) you would know that. My anger is the result of bullshit legislation that aims to control morality from the perspecive of a few to the detriment of the whole. It comes from needless spending of government funds and public dollars on stupid shit that only increases debt and accomplishes more harm than good. It comes from the fact that I fucking hate stupid people in general, I don't look the other way or turn the other cheek, and I don't believe in forgiveness.

You don't want to kill Liberals, even if some are vile? Good for you! Conversely, I don't want to kill any Republicans but I sure as fuck don't mourn them when they die. If that is shocking behavior by your standards, then I personally think that is pretty sad in light of the destruction created daily in the name of God & 'patriotism' by the very people you align yourself with. I don't give two shits if you think I'm awful, to be perfectly honest with you Damon - but I'm not singling you out either - I don't care what ANYONE thinks about the words I use or the sentiment that propels them or whether or not they think it is awful that I think as I do in general. Don't like what I have to say, then I respectfully suggest that you not read it lest I offend your delicate sensibilities with my reality. True, there CAN be discourse between the right and left, not when the right continues to use its self righteousness as a protective shroud to deflect its own inadequecies and failures from scrutiny and continues to flout ridiculous ideology that doesn't even affect them. It's this kind of bullshit Liberals do not suffer gladly, namely wearing ignorance like a gleaming badge of honor.

As far as the issue that I 'know better' than what I've demonstrated here, let me say this. In this journal, you're the odd man out as a gay Republican, and it's miraculous that I take you seriously at all. Being self righteous with me will get you nowhere if your aim is to try and help me understand your point of view. You simply want to argue politics and moral superiority as you've demonstrated before, and it is a waste of time.

Ducks and bunnies...
8th-Aug-2005 12:02 am (UTC)
Don't you find it interesting a non-liberal is preaching about free speech, given fostering such is usually what leads to counterculture and anti-establishment sentiment and practices?

But, liberal precepts like "protest" and "criticism" come in awfully handy once in a while for everyone, I suppose. It must be nice to be able to pick and choose like that, instead of having to stick by a particular ideology even when it's no longer popular with the majority of the country.

(This is not referring to you, of course, but to Damon's original reply to your post.)
9th-Aug-2005 12:18 am (UTC)
speach = speech.

And I disagree with the notion that all the Right is doing is expressing its rights of free speech. How can one explain Republican legislation to reduce federal funding for libraries that carry "objectionable" (read: gay-authored) material, for example?

It's not just a simple fucking issue of free speech. People in the political party you identify with are more guilty of violating free speech than properly using it.
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9th-Aug-2005 07:43 am (UTC)
Bullshit. Not too long ago it was hate speech that was used consistently to denigrate individuals into second-class citizens, denying their equal rights like voting. More importantly, however, the whole "PC" agenda really only influenced every day discourse. And, the last time I checked, people can still say things like nigger, dyke, and faggot, and not be jailed for it.

But hey, just because you can't see the hypocrisy of belonging to a politcal party which actively tries to suppress free speech - in our public libraries, in our public media - it's not my job to declare you delusional. Perhaps one day you'll realize the ways of your ideological errors.
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9th-Aug-2005 08:37 pm (UTC) - Re: Hater
Your = You're.

You should really work on that grammar problem. You should also work on taking everything too literally, as in my livejournal entry which didn't even personally refer to you, and in Jude's entry.

Dictionary.com has a nice defintion of "hyperbole" for you to explore. It might prevent you from making a complete ass of yourself again in the near future.
7th-Aug-2005 11:56 pm (UTC)
The "American Taliban" link is dead.
9th-Aug-2005 01:36 am (UTC)
Regarding the ever so slightly extreme of the religious groups, my only thought is, that ever since 2000 I've felt more and more like I'm at the end of an old remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
At the end of the movie one of the characters goes up to the main character played by Donald Sutherland smiling, and expecting him to talk with her. (The aliens don't have any real emotions).
He points a finger at her and makes a weird alarming scream, pointing her out to the rest of the aliens. He's been 'SNATCHED UP'! :)
You get the point?
Christianity is a wonderful religion. But these days, it's hard to tell who's going to scream 'your against the word of GAWWWWD!'
I tend to avoid strangers with a cross around their necks most of the time.
Just don't know when that alien scream is gonna sound. :P
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