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The Pink Triangle : The Nazi War Against Homosexuals 
3rd-Jun-2005 09:52 am
From Telling Pictures Productions:
By the 1920’s, Berlin had become known as a homosexual eden, where gay men and lesbians lived relatively open lives amidst an exciting subculture of artists and intellectuals. With the coming to power of the Nazis, all this changed. Between 1933 and 1945 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality under Paragraph 175, the sodomy provision of the German penal code dating back to 1871. Some were imprisoned, others were sent to concentration camps. Of the latter, only about 4,000 survived. Today, fewer than ten of these men are known to be living. Five of them have now come forward to tell their stories for the first time in this powerful new film.
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3rd-Jun-2005 01:59 pm (UTC) - All those guys with fag hatin signs...
....look like BIG FAGS! I saw that 175 flick and it ruined my life.I'm glad I saw it.I now have a triangle tatoo.;-)
3rd-Jun-2005 02:10 pm (UTC) - Re: All those guys with fag hatin signs...
My friend Charlie is an observant Jew and is also gay. He has the tattoo as well. I've thought about getting it myself, but I have reservations about that.

That movie left me a complete wreck as well.
3rd-Jun-2005 02:20 pm (UTC) - Re: All those guys with fag hatin signs...
I always thought the pink triangle was a stupid symbol... then I learned the background of it.

The things they just don't teach you in school.
3rd-Jun-2005 02:15 pm (UTC)
Jesus fucking Christ...

"...In 1945, when concentration camps were liberated, homosexual prisoners were not freed but were instead made to serve out their sentence under Paragraph 175. In 1950, East Germany abolished Nazi amendments to Paragraph 175, whereas West Germany kept them and even had them confirmed by its Constitutional Court...." - wiki
3rd-Jun-2005 04:08 pm (UTC)
Wait until you see my as-yet-unwritten posts, you think this is bad.
3rd-Jun-2005 04:35 pm (UTC)
Jude, seriously, have you ever considered writting a book on all the bullshit gays go through? Give yourself room for an extended rant and history lesson beyond the confines of LJ?
3rd-Jun-2005 04:58 pm (UTC)
That's a really good idea. I don't think most people have a clue what kind of persecution gays have gone through. It's definitely never discussed in any kind of history classes taught in the schools.
3rd-Jun-2005 05:33 pm (UTC)
I'd correct you in saying that many gays coming up today don't have any idea. I would also go further and say they don't care. We live in a time when there is a whole set of young gays who feel they don't have anything to learn from history or the generations that came before them. I hope it doesn't take the frightening potential backslide looming out there to wake them up to the importance of this stuff.

When I came out, it was part of the orientation into the community to learn about the Nazis and Stonewall and what the bible actually says about homosexuality. I was taught about the meaning of red ties in the twenties and thirties, what the Boys of Boise was, and the trial of Oscar Wilde. I had interaction with older gay men who could tell me what it was like when they were young. In other words, the generation before me took their responsibility to teach this stuff to the younger generation seriously.

It's why I appreciate Jude's posts. Jude has a talent for fulfilling this responsibilty without being a curmudgeon like me.
3rd-Jun-2005 03:16 pm (UTC)
Check here for a so-called Christian blogging about why gay marriage is bad for kids and Planned Parenthood's support of the gay community is an unholy alliance. Post is today's.

http://www.dawneden.com/blogger.html

There's a straighty in the comments section putting up a good fight, but he'll be shouted down soon enough. If you comment, it's gotta be polite and clean, or blogette will delete it.
3rd-Jun-2005 04:09 pm (UTC)
The truth is that all of these prejudices are based largely on what people find offensive and not a lot else. Trying to argue logic and reason with the fundamentalists is like fucking for chastity.
3rd-Jun-2005 06:33 pm (UTC)
What flawless logic. She has such a gift for crafting an unassailable argument.

It makes me wonder how she draws up camps. I thought it was "reasonable people who think that you should leave others alone to make their own personal decisions" and "freaks who want to apply their weird beliefs to stranger by force of law."
3rd-Jun-2005 06:36 pm (UTC)
Beautifully illustrated once again - thank you!
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