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Ah yes, my Neocon Father and brother... 
27th-Jan-2005 09:00 am
So. I sent out a link to Senator Barbara Boxer's petition to several people, my oldest brother and my father included. I got a reply from my brother stating "No, Thank you, I do not support Senator Boxer's agenda", which irritated me but I left it alone. Then this morning I get this reply from my father: "DITTO!!!!!!!!!! People like her, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and the like are as bad as Jessie Jackson. None are interested in the welfare of this country (and the people who are fighting for it) - only their own agenda and personal promotion", to which I replied the following, addressing it to the both of them:

"By holding her feet to the fire to make her accountable for her actions? Wrong - that is EXACTLY what the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is supposed to do in confirmation hearings. What Boxer did was ask her outright why she contradicted herself, and STILL she couldn't provide any answer other than "I ask that you not impune my integrity". Sorry, but when you're in a SFRC hearing to be appointed to a higher diplomatic post, that's the point, to hold you up to scrutiny. Evidently we have different ideas on what constitutes democracy, which is fine.

I find it astonishing that you can make a statement like "None are interested in the welfare of this country (and the people who are fighting for it) - only their own agenda and personal promotion", as if that very idea somehow doesn't get played by the Republicans (only to a more totalitarian degree) and discredit the fact that Boxer's state is home to 25% of the fatalities from this current war, and the families of those fallen servicemembers who elected her to ask Condoleezza Rice the kinds of questions she asked in the SFRC hearing. As far as people not interested in the welfare of this country, you need look no further than this current administration as far as I'm concerned. We will have to agree to disagree on this, and so I'll no longer be emailing you anything in line with or espousing my political views. That having been said, feel free to share anything you like with me because I don't mind - I may not be a Democrat, but I am a liberal, after all.

There, take THAT.

Edit 1

I just got a call from my brother, who started laughing when I answered the phone. "Dude, why are you trying to piss off the old man?" I told him that I was trying to make a point and besides - it's fun sometimes. He agreed, and said "You know you're asking for trouble discussing politics and religion with some of the family, but I get where you're coming from. I just had to call and rib ya a bit before my next meeting."

My brother is great, no matter how misguided I think his religion and politics are. My father, on the other hand, is 70 years old - he's not likely to change his mind, but it's loads of fun challenging him sometimes.
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27th-Jan-2005 02:17 pm (UTC)
Lol - yeah, that's me. I half expect a phone call, where the shouting and name calling will come into play. If it does, I am SO recording it.
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27th-Jan-2005 02:22 pm (UTC)
On the first point, I agree in part. I'm also very hotblooded, and am always kind of looking for a fight, so the whole shouting and name calling thing is in keeping with that. Yes at times I know I'm way overbearing, but taht's the intention. I learned it from him, afterall.

As for not letting this get to me too much, that's something you'll kearn about me. I will take it to heart, there's no way for me not to.
27th-Jan-2005 02:17 pm (UTC)
damn! you go jude. that was awesome.
27th-Jan-2005 02:24 pm (UTC)
27th-Jan-2005 02:21 pm (UTC)
I didn't get no steenking email.
27th-Jan-2005 02:24 pm (UTC)
I'll be damned, I have no idea how that happened!
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27th-Jan-2005 02:57 pm (UTC)
Yes, same with my Father who replied to all as well. Knowing the crowd I sent the initial email to, I'm betting that at least half of the people I'm talking about are giving him "what for"!
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27th-Jan-2005 03:02 pm (UTC)
I take that back, my brother replied all - my father replied only to me. Damn, I wished to hell he HAD replied all!
27th-Jan-2005 06:37 pm (UTC)
I swear the reply I got was from your father. But I already deleted it from the server, so I have no proof. Bah.

27th-Jan-2005 09:52 pm (UTC)
Well poo!
27th-Jan-2005 08:51 pm (UTC)
I did get the one from your dad.

By the way, it's funny that michaelnolan said something about steenking because (although I love the picture) it looks like he's smelling his pits.
27th-Jan-2005 09:52 pm (UTC)
lol @ pits!

My Dad likes you, you could be the lone voice that could reason with him I think! Of course, you'd have to do it face to face so he can remember which heathen friend of mine you are, but it could be done!
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27th-Jan-2005 09:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah, he mentioned you. Say what you want to, you know me - if they're asking for it, it's only polite to give it to them!
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28th-Jan-2005 02:12 am (UTC)
That's why we get TWO families!! The ones we're born into and the ones we choose!

Many hugs my dear friend! I personally thought the petition was awesome even though I got it late becuase I wasn't home to check mail.
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